1. Mbl
    July 23, 2019 @ 9:55 PM

    That is a sheep herders wagon. Probably not very old. Most that I see are even more ‘covered wagon’ looking and they all look very homemade, although there are outfits that sell them.

    They do seem to be very practical seeing as they are the preferred mobile house of pretty much all sheep herders who travel around the country grazing there sheep for their whole life.


  2. MBL
    August 6, 2019 @ 11:37 AM

    How I found this posting was, I was looking for info on converting a 1986 Mini-Beggo ( a Winnebago Itasca Phasar, a FWD mini motorhome ) into a towable mini travel trailer. My first thought was to remove the motor and front wheels and just weld a tongue to the frame to attach it to my hitch. The rear axle is pretty far back though, so I think to get the hitch weight down, it would have to be pretty long. Leaving it 4 wheels down is interesting to me, as I understand it’s easier on my truck. A tow bar is a fine option, but the inability to back up is a definite negative, for me.
    So here are my options as I understand them.
    1. Tow bar: Can’t back up, but is easy and cheap.
    2. Long tongue: would act like a trailer, but would be pretty long and probably cost me mpg since it wouldn’t benefit from any drafting effect with the tow vehicle. More metal and more welding.
    3. Short tongue and add a second axle and a platform to the end of the motorhome for an ATV. Even more metal, welding and cost, but would be more balanced and trailer like in tow performance, plus I can take my ATV with me.
    4. 4 wheel tow with a custom tongue that also effects the steering of the trailer. I don’t understand the math involved with this one.

    As for option 4, This would be cool, the angle of the trailer would make the trailer steer to follow. Is this possible? Do you want to work on the math with me?
    If not, I’ll probably go tow bar (option 1) as step one, and then work on option 3, when I have time.


    • The Mechanic
      August 8, 2019 @ 7:06 AM

      Interesting thoughts. Tow Bar is not a bad idea. Take it for an alignment and have the caster set for best towing. Backing might be the showstopper as many camping areas require you to back in. I don’t understand #4. I’m good with math, but you’ll need to give me a visual so I know what you’re thinking.


  3. MBL
    August 16, 2019 @ 9:36 PM

    What I mean for option 4 is to have the tongue hinge at the wagon (I’m gonna call the ex-motorhome a wagon) and the angle that the hinged tongue is at while being towed (during a turn, say) affects the front wheels of the wagon so that they turn to follow in the proper circle to follow the tow vehicle through the turn.
    I imagine that as long as the wheels are pointing in the same direction as the tongue, the wagon would be following the correct path?
    It seems to me that this setup would be able to backup about the same as a regular trailer.


    • The Mechanic
      August 19, 2019 @ 5:17 AM

      Sounds like you’re talking about a tow bar. If so, it’s done a lot by RV’ers towing a car. I don’t know why it wouldn’t work towing the RV. The key is setting the caster. Just make sure you build a super sturdy tow bar and connection points.


  4. Gary U
    October 17, 2019 @ 8:11 PM

    That trailer looks like a “sheep trailer”. A place to stay while grazing the heard and looking for the proverbial greener pastures.


  5. Gary U
    October 17, 2019 @ 8:17 PM

    Never mind. I should have read the other posts before commenting. 😃


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