Overslung or Underslung Trailer Springs?

Because you asked . . . What are the advantages of Overslung – or – Underslung trailer springs?  Let’s discuss it.  The concepts are pretty easy to see with some good graphics.

Let’s start with some basics.

What are Overslung or Underslung Trailer Springs?

Comparing Overslung and Underslung Springs and Drop AxlesThese two words describe how, and where trailer axle leaf springs connect to the axle.  First, Overslung leaf springs sit on top of the axle.  They are “Over” the axle.  You can see this in the top portion of the image.

Then, Underslung mounting has the springs attach below the axle.  They effectively ‘hang’ from the axle while the U-Bolts carry the load.  The middle example in the image illustrates this.  We have a trailer building video also posted that shows assembly of an Underslung axle.  Worth a watch if you want to see a full trailer build.

Just for grins, the third example in the image shows how Underslung trailer axle springs attach on a “Drop Axle”.  While spring mounting is the same, the drop portion has the axle lower (relative to the wheel center).  The real effect is more obvious in the next image as we visualize the frame height comparison.  See also the article on Trailer Axles 101 for more axles background.

Advantages / Disadvantages

There are basically 3 effects in choosing Overslung – or – Underslung trailer springs.  Let’s look at each, then put it all together.

1. Trailer Frame Height

The first effect is in the illustration below.  This side view shows 3 situations:  Each has an axle, springs, wheel and a frame beam.  (All parts are the same size, in different order.)  The left image shows a drop axle with underslung springs.  The middle one shows a straight axle with underslung springs.  Finally, the right one is also a straight axle, this time with Overslung springs.  These are the same 3 situations as the 3D image above.

Comparing Straight & Drop Axles with Overslung and Underslung Trailer Springs

The big effect is the height of the frame beam with respect to the ground.  Assuming the deck attaches to the frame, then the real essence is deck height.  Drop axles are a great way to lower a deck, especially with underslung trailer springs.  The opposite is true for raising the deck, and the effect is big.  The drop axle gives a 4″ vertical change.  The Overslung versus Underslung accounts for 6.5″ in this example.  (That amount changes with different axle sizes and spring stacks.)

Why would you want to raise the deck that much?

2. Clearance

While there are many reasons to want a higher deck, the most common is for clearance.  This can be clearance for the axle to the frame, or to accommodate oversize tires.  Sometimes it’s by design so the trailer bed is high — like with a deck-over style trailer.

Total ground clearance does not change as the deck goes up because the axle beam is still there.  Ground clearance does change with a drop axle compared to a straight one, but not with overslung or underslung trailer springs.

On the other hand, approach and exit angles can change a lot as the frame goes up.  Also, overslung springs will increase clearance under the trailer, above the axles.  Some people use this space for storage like for ladders, ramps or other things that slide in from the back.

For some trailers, a low deck height is important for loading and access.  For other trailers, the clearance is more important.  The overslung or underslung trailer springs give us options for both goals.

3. Stability

Changes in height do have an effect on stability.  Of course, as the trailer frame goes up, in raises the center of gravity.  A higher center of gravity is not trivial, and something to be aware of when loading a trailer no matter what type of spring attachment it has.

Another part to stability is the direction of forces and compliance in the system.  To illustrate, let’s look back at the 3 axles in the images above.  When forces are purely vertical, like steady state on a smooth road, then there is no real difference for stability in any of the configurations.  However, the smooth road condition is not the only one.

Dynamic Forces

When the forces are not purely vertical, like hitting a bump, a dip, or braking, the 3 configurations are not equal.  Look at just the center image above — the straight axle with underslung trailer springs.  If you think of the wheel and axle as the place braking and bounce forces come into the system, then the ends of the spring (where they mount to the trailer frame) are the anchors.

If the excitement forces are horizontal, then the spring ends and axle are sort of in a straight line.  That makes the triangle from front spring mount to axle to rear spring mount very shallow.  See the graphic below.

Compare that to the overslung springs image.  The triangle from front spring mount to axle to rear spring mount is taller.  Since springs are, by definition, compliant, more force goes to “twisting” the spring.  The forces we’re talking about are not consistent, so the spring can react to various inputs different, causing some minor instability, perhaps manifest in shuddering or something similar.

In most cases, it’s a pretty small effect, but sometimes not.  As a grossly general rule, the greater the distance from the spring connection points to the wheel centers, then the more apt the system is to display such attributes.  Think of it as the lower the peak of the triangle, then the more potential there is for unstable attributes.  Also, if the triangle points up, that’s more stable still.

Stability Graphic for Overslung or Underslung Trailer Springs

Hopefully you can also see that adding spacers between the axle and the springs can create less stability.  The place for spacers, is above the springs, not under.  If you need to raise the trailer frame more, use solid spacing between the spring mounts and the frame.

Keeping Perspective

The above discussion about triangles makes it seem so simple.  It’s far from that, yet it’s presented for thinking expansion.

Also, from the above graphic we might assert that longer springs help stability.  While that can be true, compliance also enters into the equation.  Longer springs are typically stiffer per inch, but have more flex overall.  Then there are spring anchors — at least one on shackle or slip.  So, on multi-axle trailers, for instance, the middle area (equalizer) moves and actually detracts from stability.  Without going into detail, yes, longer springs may help, but that’s not for sure.

Considerations, Mistakes, and Conversion

A lot written about axles with overslung or underslung springs — though mostly about conversions.  I like this article from Do It Yourself RV because he hits on several topics that many miss — like camber.  The article also talks about stability and says if you’re having stability concerns, changing from underslung to overslung is not a good ideal.   I agree.

While reading the jabber in various forums about it, be careful because some stuff is just random opinion and even misleading.

If you want overslung trailer springs, order the axles and springs that way to avoid retrofit and “flipping” issues.  That’s not always necessary, but it is the safe way.  Also, there are differences with single axle and multi-axle trailers.  Ask the manufacturer before converting.

One comment that made me laugh is a guy wanting to flip a drop axle upside down with overslung springs to give more ground clearance.  Though it seems creative, it’s a bad a idea on many levels.  I can see it working — until it doesn’t — with pretty catastrophic consequences.  Maybe at really low speeds.?.?  Please don’t let anyone talk you into flipping drop axles, especially for highway use.

A piece of advice:  Change out the bolts when you do a major revision of the suspension.  Bolts are cheap insurance.  If the existing bolts have even a little rust on the threads, they won’t tighten as well.  Yes, you can put just as much torque on them, but the internal friction created with the rust won’t let them actually tighten proper.  This is the last place you want to have trouble.  Just make sure the new ones are sufficient quality and grade.

Summary of Overslung & Underslung Trailer Springs

First, let’s be clear.  There is nothing inherently wrong with Overslung or Underslung springs.  Certainly underslung trailer springs are much more common, but that might be because overslung raises the trailer so much.  They both have a purpose.

The two situations, overslung and underslung trailer springs, are both quite common.  Yes, there is a stability difference worth considering, but it’s not a show stopper if you really want the added height.  Just don’t forget the much more important stability concerns of loading weight balance and for high center of gravity.

11 Comments About “Overslung or Underslung Trailer Springs?”

  1. This was a great read! (Overslung or Underslung Trailer Springs). I like the triangle diagrams. I’m a little unclear on Dynamic Forces… will go back and read it again. I agree…. Forums are just opinions, and often incorrect. Thanks for your help!

    Reply
    • I have noticed a few trailers recently including a local one used semi commercially that all use a drop axle flipped.
      At least 3 of 4 appear to use these trailers off the pavement aswell.
      1 of 4 trailers was obviously custom made and very light duty for carrying bicycles.

      Reply
      • Yes, you can do that for more center ground clearance, but it has a cost in strength and stability loss. I wouldn’t advise it. Hmmm, I wonder if that voids a warranty or something.

        Reply
        • I have a pontoon and my trailer has 16 inch wheels I cant put my boat in water i can put my springs at the bottom and be ok ?

          Reply
          • That’s a big question with lots of possibilities. Will the boat drag the ground ever? are the spring mounts OK to switch on your axle? Is there clearance? Will you need to get different springs? It’s not as simple as flipping them, but it can be done. Please visit a local trailer repair facility and let them guide you.

  2. I have a drop axle and am happy to keep it that way but want to have my springs rest on the axle obviously upgrading u bolts etc …. I see that the torsion of the spring under brakes would be kept at a minimum but giving me the extra clearance I need… what are your thoughts.

    Reply
    • I assume you mean use overslung springs on the drop axle? Yes, that can be done, but you’ll also need to weld the spring seat bracket on the top side of the axle. Make sure the left and right are parallel and coplanar.

      Reply
  3. you stress not to flip the drop axle but to didnt go into any detail as to why not. the obvious isse is that the camber may be reversed if the drop axle has an existing camber, but what of the increased localised forces that twist on the leaf spings where the ubolts attatch the axle. is it a concern ?

    Reply
    • All those reasons and more. The instability of the perch, and the torsional stresses on the springs, and the u-bolts as you mentioned. Good observations.

      Reply
  4. Hoping for light at the end of the tunnel and not a bank buster. I have a 1,000 lbs utility trailer I want to use as a overland cam gear hauling trailer(it looks like it was built a a low deck, med heavy hauler using Issuu NPR truck style rims) . It has 31″ tires with a huge underslung drop axle (6″ drop using large heavy plate pieces for the drop) . I need some height and ground clearance. I can get extra height by going overslung but not clearance as the axle itself is still the same distance from the ground. You said that flipping an overslung axle is bad is it the same with flipping a underslung drop axle? (I know that it probably be the same answer but hoping for the least expensive answer as I can’t afford a new axle)

    Reply
    • The last thing I want is to dissuade a creative venture. That said, sometimes life gives us hard choices. It sounds like a choice of accepting the ground clearance it has, or making something really sketchy. You might be able to oversling the springs (I don’t know if that works in your situation). You might add spacers at the spring shackles. Please don’t flip a drop axle, and don’t put spacers on the axle. Those are both unstable and asking for trouble. It’s a predicament, but saving a few pennies now may cost you big dollars later. IMHO there are 2 choices: accept the low ground clearance, or save up for a new axle. Good luck.

      Reply

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  1. This was a great read! (Overslung or Underslung Trailer Springs). I like the triangle diagrams. I’m a little unclear on Dynamic Forces… will go back and read it again. I agree…. Forums are just opinions, and often incorrect. Thanks for your help!

    Reply
    • I have noticed a few trailers recently including a local one used semi commercially that all use a drop axle flipped.
      At least 3 of 4 appear to use these trailers off the pavement aswell.
      1 of 4 trailers was obviously custom made and very light duty for carrying bicycles.

      Reply
      • Yes, you can do that for more center ground clearance, but it has a cost in strength and stability loss. I wouldn’t advise it. Hmmm, I wonder if that voids a warranty or something.

        Reply
        • I have a pontoon and my trailer has 16 inch wheels I cant put my boat in water i can put my springs at the bottom and be ok ?

          Reply
          • That’s a big question with lots of possibilities. Will the boat drag the ground ever? are the spring mounts OK to switch on your axle? Is there clearance? Will you need to get different springs? It’s not as simple as flipping them, but it can be done. Please visit a local trailer repair facility and let them guide you.

  2. I have a drop axle and am happy to keep it that way but want to have my springs rest on the axle obviously upgrading u bolts etc …. I see that the torsion of the spring under brakes would be kept at a minimum but giving me the extra clearance I need… what are your thoughts.

    Reply
    • I assume you mean use overslung springs on the drop axle? Yes, that can be done, but you’ll also need to weld the spring seat bracket on the top side of the axle. Make sure the left and right are parallel and coplanar.

      Reply
  3. you stress not to flip the drop axle but to didnt go into any detail as to why not. the obvious isse is that the camber may be reversed if the drop axle has an existing camber, but what of the increased localised forces that twist on the leaf spings where the ubolts attatch the axle. is it a concern ?

    Reply
    • All those reasons and more. The instability of the perch, and the torsional stresses on the springs, and the u-bolts as you mentioned. Good observations.

      Reply
  4. Hoping for light at the end of the tunnel and not a bank buster. I have a 1,000 lbs utility trailer I want to use as a overland cam gear hauling trailer(it looks like it was built a a low deck, med heavy hauler using Issuu NPR truck style rims) . It has 31″ tires with a huge underslung drop axle (6″ drop using large heavy plate pieces for the drop) . I need some height and ground clearance. I can get extra height by going overslung but not clearance as the axle itself is still the same distance from the ground. You said that flipping an overslung axle is bad is it the same with flipping a underslung drop axle? (I know that it probably be the same answer but hoping for the least expensive answer as I can’t afford a new axle)

    Reply
    • The last thing I want is to dissuade a creative venture. That said, sometimes life gives us hard choices. It sounds like a choice of accepting the ground clearance it has, or making something really sketchy. You might be able to oversling the springs (I don’t know if that works in your situation). You might add spacers at the spring shackles. Please don’t flip a drop axle, and don’t put spacers on the axle. Those are both unstable and asking for trouble. It’s a predicament, but saving a few pennies now may cost you big dollars later. IMHO there are 2 choices: accept the low ground clearance, or save up for a new axle. Good luck.

      Reply

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